FM2 information please

[Heather]

David and I have now lived in Guanajuato for one year. We have the FM3 which must be renewed by the 25th of November but we are opting for the FM2 as we plan to make Mexico our permanent home. Having reviewed all the available government literature and spoken to an immigration agent in SMA we are still none the wiser about the costs. Is there anyone out there who had made the switch from FM3 to FM2 recently under the new regulations who can shed some light on the costs and income requirements We look forward to hearing from you.

Muchas gracias,

Heather Rogers

[DonMackenzie]

Immigration Officer for our area: Clemente Villapan, whose office in San Miquel de Allende, Leon Airport
Aduana (website) www.inm.gob.mx (his email) is cvillapando@inm.gob.mx (he has
years of experience working US/MX law and is totally bilingual) is the
representative who spoke on both July 29th and August 5th in San
Miquel de Allende explaining all the new information about FM3 (long
term visitor) and FM2 (immigrant). The FM3 is about $200 to complete
and the FM2 closer to $275 each. As an immigrant you get the option to
have a job so think of the extra money as making it possible to work
and pay taxes to improve "your" new country.

Be careful!

(1) If you want to own a car, you have a limited amount of time on an
FM2 to take a USA registered car back to the USA and sell it.
(2) Also with an FM2, you cannot leave Mexico for more than a total of
18 months in the first 5 years of having the FM2. If you have an
emergency, contact Clemente Villapan and he might be able to get that
requirement "eased" so you don't have to start the FM2 process all
over again.
(3) You have to take a test to finally get the FM2 UNLESS you have
title to land in Mexico.
If you are still having trouble, Edward Clancy, the US Consulate
415-113-9574 or consuladosma@gmail.com is also VERY accessible and a
really BIG help with any confusion.
Jacquie Mackenzie

[The Duck]

If you have a Bancomer/BBVA account you can now pay your derechos on your FM-3 [and other items] on line:

in just 31 easy steps

Stepping to the bank may be shorter but you have to give Bancomer credit for trying.

Learn more about their PCU [preferred customer unit]

http://www.bancomer.com.mx/pcu/index.html

[mr bill]

A couple of comments on this post:

As an immigrant you get the option to have a job so think of the extra money as making it possible to work and pay taxes to improve "your" new country.

This is not automatic [being able to work] when you get an FM-2 - You need to change your status from Rentista [I think its actually called something else on the FM-2 but I can't recall the term] to Lucrativo and then once granted you have so many days to get over to the Hacienda in Leon to get your RFC and then begin the joys of making monthly tax payments if you are operating a business or doing house/apartment rentals. And in the later case you need to register with the state of Guanajuato and pay the tourism tax as well.

(1) If you want to own a car, you have a limited amount of time on an FM2 to take a USA registered car back to the USA and sell it.

This is not so if you remain a rentista. Articulo 106 of the Aduana covers this. You can see the most current version here:
http://info4.juridicas.unam.mx/ijure/fed/11/122.htm?s=

An earlier version with an English translation can be found here: http://rollybrook.com/article_106.htm

Its wise to print this out and keep in your car as a defense when an overzealous cop is looking for something to hang on you, "expired import permit". Once they know you know the law they let you go.

(3) You have to take a test to finally get the FM2 UNLESS you have
title to land in Mexico.

Really? Are you confusing this with applying for Mexican citizenship?


Here are a couple of useful links to a Yucatan site that covers these subjects in detail and in English:
http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/driving-...in-mexico/
http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/living-i...m2-or-fm3/

[Ric Hoffman]

To quailify for a FM2, you need to have 400 times the daily wage as reported in DF, about $57.00 a day which is approximately $22,800 per month of income generated outside of Mexico. This amount may be reduced to two hundred times with proof of home ownership.

Fill out a request to stay in Mexico and change your status to Inmigrante (FM2) from No-Inmigrante (FM3) and apply for R.N.E.
You will need to apply for inscription into R.N.E. at the time of your FM2 application, so use the save and continue button so you will have one PIEZA number for both tramites. Once both forms have been completed, just save and your application will appear, probably a four page pdf. If you are only doing two actions.

The costs are listed on the INM website:
DERECHO POR SERVICIO MIGRATORIO ORDINARIO (DSMO) (Art. 13 Fracc.Vll.-Por cada Inscripci?n en el Registro Nacional de Extranjeros) 014000011 K0PB0060000000 $ 668.96 $ 669.00

DERECHO POR SERVICIO MIGRATORIO ORDINARIO (DSMO) (Art. 9 Fracc. l.- Autorizaci?n como inmigrante en la caracter?stica de rentista) 014000011 K0OK0030000000 $ 2,799.71 $ 2,800.00

I hope this was helpful to you.